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Posted - 2015.02.03 12:08:58 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I think they should go one step farther. Remove PLEX, period.
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Now about the PLEX price: I noticed it dropping over the weekend. It seems odd it would be dropping. No PLEX sale, some extra demand due to FanFest, yet it is dropping. Are we entering a new era?
Smart traders sell PLEX before they become useless pixel item, due to AUR changes you mentioned.
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Posted - 2015.02.05 09:37:50 -
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Alexi Stokov wrote: If they simple had PLEX go worthless, how many pissed of people would there be?
As far as I understood you will be able to turn certain number of PLEXes into AUR (they look for balance atm). So only pissed players will be those speculators, who stock pile really high amount of PLEXes. They do not create intended game content and CCP see this as problem. In about 1,5 year ago CCP got real money for 2 PLEXes for each destroyed item, worth 1bilion ISK. Cause PLEX was like 500 milions. Not long ago it jumped to 1 bilion, so players need to sell only one PLEX - real money for CCP was cutted to 50 %. It seems to be market manipulation and now CCP fires back, killing speculators. |
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Posted - 2015.02.24 11:58:37 -
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Alex Grison wrote:CCP wants em nice and low. But it no workey.
Well, it does workey, though not that quick. PLEX price still dropping: http://www.eve-markets.net/detail?typeid=29668#history |
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Posted - 2015.02.25 09:38:51 -
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Koniforous wrote:They usually drop after an update, and return or spike a couple weeks later.
Did you actually checked the link I posted? PLEX value drops over last 90 days and keep going that way. No real spikes.
Vincent Athena wrote: I'm sure they would also replace every PLEX in the game with 3500 AUR.
I am not so sure about "every PLEX". Quota for conversion can be big, yes, but it is still qouta. Even if CCP will agree to allow you convert 100 PLEX as of now, there still be ppl with larger PLEX count. And quota is still under concideration. It can be even lower to make more PLEX speculators rage quit. |
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Posted - 2015.02.26 08:22:15 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:
Having a "quota" would be like replacing $1000 bills with $1000 bills, but only for the first 100 bills.
Fixed that for you.
Vincent Athena wrote:
It would just not be acceptable.
by any PLEX speculator. Thats right. But for ordinary PLEX producers / users like me it would be absolutely OK. Cause I rearely have more than 5 PLEX in my posession. PLEX speculators do not create any usefull game content but rather abuse feature, that was intended solely for quick ISK injection / possibility to play for free. So there will be no surprise if CCP decides to get rid of those via PLEX conversion quota? PLEX speculators rage quite, game economy stabilize, CCP will get 20 euro for one replaced megatrone navy issue instead of 10 as it was around new year. |
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Posted - 2015.02.26 16:08:09 -
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Alexi Stokov wrote:The only way to stop PLEX speculation is to peg it to a specific isk value, say 500 million isk. No matter what region you are in PLEX is the same value on the market
I think it would open door for black market and RMT. Since PLEX is not generated but injected into the game by players. |
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Posted - 2015.03.04 11:40:12 -
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There is 12 sell orders in Jita with price under 800 milions atm. And median price keep falling even quicker. PLEX price is droping, several months in a raw already, despite all smart talks about "economy implosion". Simply because PLEX is bound to real money. It is not some virtual pixel item, it is a bit more, than part of Eve economy. CCP loses money on high PLEX price and they want their money back. |
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Posted - 2015.03.12 09:24:21 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:Current plex holders keeping prices up.
I know people that have around 4 thousand of plexes they want to sell now.
Of course they will not allow for price to drop below the line they bought it in first place , so they are slowly reducing their stock , while keeping price up .
And I believe that is the exact reason why there will be some quota, how many PLEXes can be converted into AUR.
If you check the chart with 111 days of PLEX price (http://www.eve-markets.net/detail?typeid=29668#history), you will see not only that it keeps loosing its price, but that there are also jumps in sell volume from 1,5 milions to 4,5 milions and back again. Clear manipulations in desparate attempt to save "investments". |
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Posted - 2015.03.12 13:25:39 -
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Noonian Enaka wrote: If the quota is too low it could lead to mass cancellation.
This volume picture (jump 4,5 milions Plexes one day and holding, jump back to1,5 milion and holding level again) clearely points out, that PLEX speculations is not done by group. Most likely it is one player... or two players, who can cooperate really well. Even if those one, two, even ten speculaters rage quit, game will not lose anything, IMHO. |
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Posted - 2015.04.03 09:40:42 -
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erg cz wrote:
This volume picture (jump 4,5 milions Plexes one day and holding, jump back to1,5 milion and holding level again)
Few days ago volume jumped from 1,8 milions to 700 - 800 thousands and holding again... Something is going to happen...
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Posted - 2015.04.17 08:54:58 -
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Priest Amarr wrote:Because plex caters two different types of players at once.
Wrong. According to CCP statistics, average PLEX changes 4 owners before it got used. Among those 4 owners are ppl with hundreds or even thousands of PLEXes, who keep prices up. So CCP loses money (your type B players need to buy less plexes cause player A gives him more ISK for one)
This quota thing, when you can convert only limited amount of PLEXes into AUR, is simple and effective solution how to make those 2 or 3 speculants rage quit. Rest of the community will happily keep on playing.
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Posted - 2015.09.09 08:25:19 -
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Algarion Getz wrote:1.1 billion for a PLEX ... WTF is going on? I thought it would stop at 1 bill and then go down again. Why is it still increasing so much? Have i missed a new ISK faucet? Is there a problem with PLEX supply? (i.e. Are the players just hoarding PLEX en masse as gold reserve?)
People stop generating PLEX. Almost no newbies, who would stay in game long enough to upgrade (so - buddy program as PLEX source is almost out). Null dwellers stop fighting - they are busy relocating. So no PLEX source here as well. No CCP advertisment in mass media - very few new players comming in. MMO, which can be played for free , have advertisment every where - TV, google etc... So new players, who wants pew pew, go there, where they get match making, instant fights and have all this for free. New players, who like sand box, start building their own little empire and get ganked rather quickly at the moment, when they do not have mood / will / skills / ship to fight. Which is frustraiting and make them leave as well.
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Posted - 2015.09.14 08:09:39 -
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Would be funny, if someone, who stockpilled about 10 000 PLEXes in Jita, will decide to put them on the market at, let say, 500 milions ISK. Hardcore market PvP, anyone?
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Posted - 2015.09.18 12:59:49 -
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motie one wrote:
I would expect the process would be permenant and fixed NPC sell orders at 500m
Never going to happen. Too many players will stop subscription and just plex their accounts since this 500 m is achievable in a matter of 50 hours of AFK mining even with semi-newbie skills, not speaking about higher ISK /hour activities.
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